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787 diverts to MSY en route from IAH to EWR

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A United Airlines flight en route to Newark from Houston Tuesday morning was forced to make an emergency landing in New Orleans because of a mechanical issue with the plane, a brand-new 787 Dreamliner. (www.seattlepi.com) Meer...

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jhowa1
Jack Howard 4
I was on an A319 January 2011 from Chicago to PDX and we had to land in Omaha due to electrical and hydraulic issues. Another A319 picked us up and flew us on to PDX. We were on the ground long enough for me to get down 3 double Makers on the rocks. Neither the mechanical issue or my consumption of bourbon made the news.
honzanl
honza nl 4
pilots declaring an emergency because an electrical malfunction on an 'electric' plane; that is more than just something, that should worry people....
preacher1
preacher1 1
Dang, I'd thought that bourbon would have done the trick for sure Jack.lol
dherman
Doug Herman 1
I hope since you were at OMA you had time for a great steak to wash down with the fine bourbon...
bishops90
Brian Bishop 1
At least it was GOOD bourbon. 3 double Maker's in an airport bar'll set you back almost as much as pax fare!
preacher1
preacher1 1
Hopefully while he was on the ground and delayed the Airline was picking up the tab.lol
wasclywabbit
John Berry 3
John Ostrower of the Wall Street Journal is reporting via Twitter: "Diverted United 787 radioed fire crews at MSY to look signs of damage to the aircraft near the jet's aft electrical equipment bay" and "The 787's aft electrical bay is home to the jet's electrical power distribution, guiding power from its engines & APU." and "In Nov. 2010, Boeing suffered an in-flight fire in the same electrical bay while on approach to Laredo, Tx, during a test flight."
toolguy105
toolguy105 3
There was no fire or indication there of on the exterior of the plane. We won't know for sure why they declared an emergency until the NTSB report. This plane was delivered earlier in the week and put right into to service without any test flights by United.

Something failed or indicated a failure on the flight deck. This is a new aircraft with inexperienced crews. The proper thing to do is not to second guess the computers you put the plane on the ground and let maintenance take a look. I believe this is what the crews did and what United has done. According to flight tracker the plane is still at MSY.
preacher1
preacher1 2
As new and high profile as this thing is, We'll hear all about in the next while or they'll sweep it under the rug hoping nothing else will be said.
dontyler
Donald Tyler 1
The increased use of lead-free electronics raises question if pure tin whiskers are creating these problems. The symptoms match.
sparkie624
sparkie624 2
This could be real simple issue and maybe nothing that is safety related. In Canada yesterday had a diversion because the FMS failed in flight. The Canadian Controls diverted him. He Diverted 20 minutes off course, and was only 30 minutes from his destination.

This issue could be as simple as an indication and the crew played it safe to have things checked out... Even though they are fully trained, there is always something new... Especially in a new plane. This article in my opinion is to vague and doesn't say nothing meaningful. They just want to publish meaningless dirt.
stevooz
steve rogers 2
nice , but you where on the ground .
wwharris
Bill Harris 2
Reportedly due to a failure of one of the aircraft's six generators: http://seattletimes.com/html/businesstechnology/2019839876_united787diversionxml.html
colinpayette
Colin Payette 2
Why were they flying a 787 to take 174 passengers on a domestic flight?
toolguy105
toolguy105 2
Listen to tower conversation on ATC Live. Pilots concerned with what seemed to be an electrical issue in the baggage area behind the wing root. Asked Fire Rescue to inspect the aircraft just behind the wing in the area of the fuselage where there is primarily electrical connections.

Later the FAA posted a immediate airworthiness directive to inspect and repair a fuel line connection in the engine Nacelle that may have not been connect properly at the factory. Do not know if the two are connected.
gunfitr
Kurt Anderson 2
Can't comment on this due to lack of information about the problem.
sparkie624
sparkie624 4
There are more airports between LA and New York than there are between New York and London... Just in case problems arise.
preacher1
preacher1 3
As per other posts here, they said they were keeping them domestcic for awhile for training and all.
TWA55
Vincent Birkett 3
Marketing..treat the folks to the new jet w/ all the bells and whistles that UA can offer.....my guess

sparkie624
sparkie624 3
As stated before, they are keeping it in the US until all the crews are fully trained. This is probably Ground Crews as well as Flight Crews... In this case, may have been a good thing.
preacher1
preacher1 2
I'm going for the playing it safe, based on the post below and the tweet
gunfitr
Kurt Anderson 1
With all the people that are out of work they can't afford it, they hitch hike.
andytyler
Andy Tyler 1
The 787 is operating on hub-hub routes for crew training/familiarity before being put on international routes.
Pileits
Pileits 1
@Colin
Because they CAN
onceastudentpilot
tim mitchell 4
It'll be a great bird once they get all of the bugs worked out.
JJ7
JJ Johnson 4
Growing pains for a fabulous bird. No worries
preacher1
preacher1 4
They said somewhere that Nippon and some of the rest had had minor problems. The only reason we heard about this on is because it's high profile and they are the first domestic carrier. Besides the training, I am sure this is another reason to keep it home for awhile. This ain't United's first rodeo with a new plane.
Derg
Roland Dent 0
Tell you what W the Japanese engineers are the best on the planet. The Lufthansa crew are good but at times they have to fight like hell with MBAs for the odd penny here and there. The big problem is the damned paper work in Japanese.
preacher1
preacher1 4
stuff happens. Saw a brand new car the other day, about 2 hours off the lot, coming back to the dealership on a rollback.
onceastudentpilot
tim mitchell 5
We had a brand new Rig that the transmission just fell out of....the joys of new stuff...lol
sparkie624
sparkie624 3
LOL Happens all the time...
gunfitr
Kurt Anderson -1
Yes preacher but did it fall 30,000 feet on to that truck?
andytyler
Andy Tyler 1
yup. i'll take a warning light in the cockpit over an exploding engine anyday.
jim09604
jim09604 3
There was a near catastrophy early on with an A380 when an engine came apart in mid-flight and seriously damaged the plane itself. And later they found a substantial issue with improper materials selected for the wing structure that had to be corrected on aircraft in service as well as new builds. End result was that passengers paid no attention and 380s still sold prety well.

These 787 issues seem like small problems in comparison.
gunfitr
Kurt Anderson 1
I haven't
read anything that said what the exact problem was, do you know??
preacher1
preacher1 1
Below here there is a link from Bill Harris. I think I read that link and it says something about one of the generators; supposedly minor but somebody said it was still on the ground at MSY so I dunno.
Derg
Roland Dent 1
You into "bluegrass" music W?
preacher1
preacher1 2
Personally, No.
IFLYLB
Michael Wilson 1
Love this story and site.
andmat
andrea matteucci 1
MettlerJJ
J J Johnston 1
No harm No foul everybody lives to fight another day
Zany4God
Zany4God 1
In the meantime, I'll enjoy the ANA 787 as it flies over my home on it's approach to KSEA around 9am. I picked up this morning's flight as she was off the BC coast at 390 flying a little over 560. She's a beauty.
BharatBhandare
Bharat Bhandare 1
Well , now comes the news of the faulty fuel lines, so how long are we going to survive on optimism and not look at it as a potential problem on hand , which needs good, qualified attention.
Trust the "growing pains" do not turn into endless nightmares !!
theschoolofchuck
Charles Collins 1
Seems like this sort of thing always happens with new airliners. It takes a lot to make flight of any machine a reality. As far as PR goes, I wonder if the passengers where doused in the new airliner fanfare. It doesn't make well to brag about a new product if an emergency landing takes place, regardless of the reason. It isn't the first 787 emergency and it won't be the last, and the same goes for every other aircraft out there that had it's up's and down's early on.
preacher1
preacher1 3
You know that and we all know that but as you say, try explaining it to a pax. I lost an engine on t/o once on a 757 after the bird had been in the hangar for a week getting a good going over. Something totally simple and that actually had been looked over while down but it failed under power. Stuff will break. I really hope that they don't find anything serious on that generator. Of course, the 787, being the new kid on the block, is under the microscope and we will hear about every little ache and pain until something else comes along to take the limelight.
FritzSteiner
Fritz Steiner 2
As a retired US Navy diesel-electric submarine Engineer Officer who took USS RAZORBACK (SS-394) through an extensive 5-month long shipyard overhaul, I can share this bit of acquired wisdom:

When we entered the shipyard for overhaul WE KNEW WHAT WAS WRONG with the boat (in RAZORBACK's case it was almost everything.)

When we completed the overhaul, WE WEREN'T SURE.

It turned out there wasn't much wrong. Thanks to our ship's company's knowledgeable, conscientious supervision we were able to find and have corrected some serious potential problems -- before we signed off on the shipyard's work. I probably wouldn't have been around to write this if we'd undocked without making a detailed inspection of the interior of every ballast tank.

The reason why you aren't sure when you leave is that with so much work being done by individuals who're skilled at their trade, but are nonetheless are human and fallible, mistakes get made. The shipyard workers can tell you in good faith a job has been completed properly -- and almost all are. But as President Reagan so wisely said: "TRUST, BUT VERIFY".

The same should be applicable to airplane maintenance.
theschoolofchuck
Charles Collins 2
To be honest, I didn't even read the article. The 787 had an in-flight fire (or "heat-up") whatever you want to call it, a motor shaft failure, and I don't even really care what this is all about. All these failures are well within(usually) the machine's safety factor and are typical of anything flying today. I'm not a pilot, but how do you deal with that passenger who gets so upset over these things without any knowledge of meteorology, structural mechanics, fluid dynamics, physiology, and aircraft financing? It takes a lot to make a plane fly, let alone get you there on time and even if it's 5 hours late, it sure beats driving. The press loves these incidents and so do the Airbus vs. Boeing people. For those of us who make it all happen, it's just another day.
onceastudentpilot
tim mitchell 2
The media loves drama.
sparkie624
sparkie624 1
Where did you hear Fault Fuel Lines?
preacher1
preacher1 1
I saw it too. It wasn't on here but a separate post somewhere. Boeing or a customer had found it; said IMPROPER INSTALLATION, and had been corrected; ANA and some of the others had already found/fixed it. Only 1/2 dozen or so planes and they were identified.
BharatBhandare
Bharat Bhandare 1
The news about snags in the new Dreamliner is coming a bit more than anticipated , of any new flying machine. It would be in the interest of the common traveller , if Boeing issues a public notification assuring them , that the plane is absolutely safe. I think it is their moral responsibility .
benin
benin 1
it's going to end up being something small like an under lubercated slide and because of all the fuss, everyone is going to have less confidence in the aircraft, especially because it is a new aircraft. Also, why was that large plane flying a small route. I know that it was between two hubs, but i expecrted a transcontinental or trans atlantic routes from it.
tf51d
Thomas Cain 4
Not so unusual, for example Delta flies 767's to JFK from Atlanta, that said United have stated their plans were to fly the 787 on domestic routes through the end of the year.
gopurduego
Robert Lewis 3
I think I recall reading somewhere that they were flying only domestic routes for training prior to using them on intl routes. But I could be thinking of some other aircraft/airline enirely.
preacher1
preacher1 1
You are correct.
photodan
Daniel Dornheim 1
Yes, I heard that, too. Right now ship 904 has a 3.5hr delay IAH-EWR and 902 still grounded. I'm scheduled on the 788 next Friday, paid a premium for that, so I would be extremely disappointed if there was a sub!
linbb
Boyd Butler -1
Reposte check before posting.
THRUSTT
THRUSTT 1
U want the check to be mailed again???
RayRev
Ray Rev 0
What should be wrong with that dreamliner?
ZJSAHT
Jason Zhang 0
787dreamline is good ,I like
hiflier32
ric lang 0
Problems with a new aircraft? Anyone remember the DC10? Probably only the ones still alive after riding in one.
sparkie624
sparkie624 0
elgatito
elgatito -1
I dont kwow was goin on boeing supose to be the best and the 787 is give the a lot a trouble
linbb
Boyd Butler -2
mbialko
mike bialko -2
(Duplicate Squawk Submitted)

United 787 makes emergency landing in New Orleans

A brand-new United Airlines "Dreamliner" bound for Newark, N.J., was diverted Tuesday morning, making an emergency landing in New Orleans because of a mechanical problem.

The Boeing 787 Dreamliner recently entered service in North America in a debut last month with United Airlines. United and Boeing are both based in Chicago.

United flight 1146 from Houston to Newark was diverted to Louis Armstrong New Orleans International Airport and landed safely, the airline said. The flight carried 174 customers and 10 crew members.

http://www.suntimes.com/
cmuncy
Chris Muncy -4
I don't think that's a pic of a dreamliner.....
cmuncy
Chris Muncy 0
Wow I fubar'd that comment... For some reason I thought the 787 had winglets. Didn't see winglets in the pic....

*sigh*
gopurduego
Robert Lewis -2
(Duplicate Squawk Submitted)

United Dreamliner makes emergency landing

A brand-new United Airlines "Dreamliner" bound for Newark, N.J., was diverted Tuesday morning, making an emergency landing in New Orleans because of a mechanical problem.


http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/breaking/chi-united-dreamliner-emergency-landing-20121204,0,6952404.story
Jackman10
John Rumpf -2
(Duplicate Squawk Submitted)

Untied 787 Dreamliner makes emergency landing in New Orleans

A United Airlines Boeing 787 Dreamliner scheduled to fly from Houston Bush (IAH) to Newark International (EWR) this morning diverted for an emergency landing at New Orleans (MSY) due to an undisclosed technical problem.

United Flight 1146, with 174 passengers and 10 crew, landed without incident at New Orleans at 9:25 AM.

‘As per standard procedure when an emergency is declared, fire trucks met the airplane as it landed.

The airline was putting passengers on a different aircraft to get them to Newark.

The cause was not immediately disclosed.

“United will work with Boeing to review the diversion and determine the cause,” airline spokeswoman Christen David said in a statement.’

The plane is the newest of three Boeing 787s that have been delivered to United. This particular plane was delivered on November 20th.

http://airnation.net/2012/12/04/united-787-emergency-new-orleans/
aat0783
Andrew Taylor -2
(Duplicate Squawk Submitted)

Dreamliner flight from Houston makes emergency landing in New Orleans

A United Airlines flight en route to Newark from Houston Tuesday morning was forced to make an emergency landing in New Orleans because of a mechanical issue with the plane, a brand-new 787 Dreamliner.

http://www.chron.com/business/article/Dreamliner-flight-from-Houston-makes-emergency-4090240.php